Did Jin "create" Messiah?

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Did Jin "create" Messiah?

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Hmmm.... maybe I'm putting too much thought into this, but did Jin accidentally create Messiah? Things to consider:
  • Brilliant but eccentric engineer
  • His preference towards quirky and imperfection.
  • His "death wish" towards eliminating Valgras.... perhaps because of a guilty conscientious
  • Electing not to be revived and return to the normal dimension
  • Being in a different part of the energy management complex 13-14 years ago
  • Not really willing to talk about what happened, and then only in bits and pieces
What is Jin trying to hide?
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Eeeh, kinda farfetched if you asked me. But who knows? You may be right as the show goes on.
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Seems a little overly complex for a children's show, but it could happen.
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I wonder that, or if maybe the Commander is behind Messiah. There was a scene in an earlier episode where he disappeared and we saw him in a room that resembled the sub dimension...
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Saejima Kouga wrote:I wonder that, or if maybe the Commander is behind Messiah. There was a scene in an earlier episode where he disappeared and we saw him in a room that resembled the sub dimension...
I think that was already explained when Jin made his appearence. Could be wrong though, my memory can be foggy sometimes.
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Hmmm...I was leaning towards that theory. Although that begs the question of if he did, was he under stress or some similar emotion?
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Lunchboxx wrote:I think that was already explained when Jin made his appearence. Could be wrong though, my memory can be foggy sometimes.
I don't remember that being explained.
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Saejima Kouga wrote:
Lunchboxx wrote:I think that was already explained when Jin made his appearence. Could be wrong though, my memory can be foggy sometimes.
I don't remember that being explained.
It wasn't explained with words but it happened in episode 13 which was connected to episode 14 and commander meets with Beet and stag busters at the end of epsiode 14 also the scene of sub dimension in episode 13 was vert different than when messiah was talking with Enter. At very least it would be creators who contacted commander but I doubt they could do it without messiah knowing it.

For Jin was the one who created Messiah theory. It is plausible but Jin is specialised in robot A.I. 's not computer based ones (yes there is a difference a big one actually) so it is a long shot. Not to mention Messiah was appeared in main room while Jin was in another facility kinda antithesis of this theory.

My thought on matter is a little different. Jin is responsible for Messiah not as creator but as summoner. I think Jin was trying to make avatar process and accidently opened a portal into sub dimension instead of a virtual reality. That dimension was made of from data and it leaked into their universe and quickly absorbed most close data form that is similiar to it and messiah was formed.
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Saejima Kouga wrote:
Lunchboxx wrote:I think that was already explained when Jin made his appearence. Could be wrong though, my memory can be foggy sometimes.
I don't remember that being explained.
It was actually explained last episode. That room was the Commander's way to contact Jin.
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Re: Did Jin "create" Messiah?

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Yeah... notice I said that before the episode explaining it was released. XD
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