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Re: Go-Busters 50 (Final Mission) released

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Kuchiri wrote:http://www.orendsrange.com/2013/02/hiro ... R3l6vKa2HB - Hiroya Matsumoto's final words in character as Jin.
I saw those. Everyone else is talking about how much they enjoyed working on the show and how much fun it was and how much they liked the other actors, and Jin does it in character.

Goddammit, Jin. Just goddammit. TT_TT
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I'm still saying it, enter is gonna return in the VS. ......and pull an "Enemy Mine" and help the busters in the fight against the villain...

It was really sad to see Jin die(and Matsumoto's good bye words as jin make it even sadder), and altough they don't see to mourn him, i think it has to do with this fact not coming from nowhere. They already knew Jin was dying with no clear way to save himself.

I really liked the final fight. A problem i tend to have with the final fight in sentais is that it is way too much one-sided. Here, Enter was stronger than them, but the busters were able to give him a fight.

Loved J resisting Enter's attack. Not only badass, but it makes a nice contrast between the two. J is closer to a human than Enter. He feels and understand emotions, and that gives him the strenght to keep fighting. I say it again, I loved how they handled J as a character instead of a toy who they pretend is a character.

Seeing the subdimension disappear with the busters in the ground, with the implication that they have accepted their fate is always interesting to see. they never pretended to walk away alive from this battle. and Jedi spirit Jin does not ruin it.
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Jin and J's relationship was the strongest part of a very strong season, followed in close second by Enter. I loved how Jin was all smiley and happy telling them everything was going to be solved perfectly like it so often is in Sentai, and when J tells the truth the front Jin is putting on instantly falls. It was very powerful, and shows how well those two character shave worked together in the season.

Reiterating what others have said, the attempt to tell story more grounded in realism is what brought this season alive for me. Even little things like the battle damage on the suits revealing wires tells you they transform for protection, for instance. The showrunner made a fantastic effort in explaining all the usual Sentai tropes in a believable way, or changing things that never made sense, and the show benefited leaps and bounds from that.

I'm so glad it ended how it did, the possibility was there to do a "everything's all right in the end" finale, but that wouldn't be in the spirit of Go-Busters. No, it's not easy. No, the heroes don't ever come out of battle invincible and victorious. They've suffered a huge loss every step of the way, but the sacrifices they made were ones they had to make.

So! Let's hope this calibre of writing continues into the next season, though my gut says all the good work in revitalising Super Sentai might be lost on the new team..
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Hate to admit this, but all through the episode, I was trying to figure out how they could beat Enter, destroy the backup card, and save Jin., You know, win against all odds, do the impossible, and have a (even if forced) happy ending... And then Jin's real body, and the backup card were destroyed... No doubt for the next Vs film, they're find someway to bring back BeetBuster or Jin, but I'm not convinced it will last longer than the film though. It's a pity, since Jin and J were what made me stick with Go-Buster, but it was impressive they went this route.
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Fuck it. Jin was the only reason I kept forcing myself to watch. It's sad him and J didn't get as much focus as the others, they really were fantastic characters when used properly.
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As I can watch the episode a few days / hours after the hours, the only thing I can say is : everything was said...

So sad Jin disappears, so sad J is alone, even so sad Enter dies. And the only survivors are so useless...
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Well, everyone already said what I wanted to say, but damn this was a good series and a good ending. At first, I was a little sad thinking that the epilogue didn't feel too fleshed out, but like Take said in an earlier post, some other Super Sentai series really did just end with "oh, the main villain is dead, series over." Also, I'm hoping that kinda like what they did with Fourze vs. OOO, they'll do something similar with KyoRyuuger vs. Gobuster, but that's just a hope.

Also, I might be in the minority, but although Gobuster did try keep themselves grounded to keep it more "realistic," I kinda hope that KyoRyuuger is as wacky as it's preview shows it to be. Usually, by keeping it wacky or, better yet, over-the-top, you tend to get those "hot-blooded" motifs which I'm looking forward to seeing again. I don't know how good of a comparison it is, but I compare the two styles to being similar to realistic mecha anime vs. super robot mechs anime where both are good for their own reasons. Oh well, on to the KyoRyuuger thread!

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Yes, they took Sentai in a new direction with this one. Problem is, I was just fine with the old direction. This series started out "okay" and really just never got any better. I can say I liked it a little better than Goseiger, but that's still setting the bar pretty low. And I hate saying that. But I'm not going to lie to myself or anyone else and gush over a series I thought was average at best. The mecha were okay, the villains were okay, the heroes were okay.....but that's honestly as good as it got. I predicted Jin's death back when they first revealed Card 07, so it didn't come as a surprise, but unless I've missed one Jin does have the honor of being only the fifth team member killed in a show (I don't count Rio and Mele as they were villains for the majority of the series and never officially joined the team) since the Sentai franchise started back in the 70s, so that is a rare honor and they did pull off his death well, but that bit of acting was the highest point the series hit for me. I can't really say I was expecting it to be better than Gokaiger (which was one of the best of all time, in my opinion), but I was hoping for more than I eventually got. It wasn't a "bad" show; I can say that much, and it will probably merit a re-watch a year or two down the road and maybe watching it with fresh eyes and keeping every plot point in mind from the get-go will help me see it in a different light. But until and unless that happens, I just have to say I'm not overwhelmed or underwhelmed with this series.....it was just "there".
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A great ending to a great series. It felt a bit rushed, that's for sure, but the emotional pay off was nicely done.

To me, the series was still at its best from 1-30. It never really picked back up to the initial quality (to me). Though the last few episodes were great, they were still not as near perfect for me as the initial 30 eps.

But overall, I gotta say this series was top notch. It bothered me a lot that the second half wasn't nearly as good, but that is only because I liked the first half so damn much.

This is the closest to Gekiranger quality for me; easily my 2nd fav Sentai show.

I'm going to miss this series A LOT. especially seeing how the next series looks to be more traditional type of sentai show.
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I know I started with a VERY BAD impression of this season at first, but things really improved when Jin appeared, and he made my GB ride awesome till the very end. Given all this, I really didn't want him to die, and at one point I was praying, "Kill Hiromu and let Jin return to the surface." Given all that Jin's done for the team, I really expected to respect his death, the first ranger death since AbareKiller. Okay, at the end of the day, it may be a kid's show so they can't really dampen the mood with a mourning scene, but there are other ways to do it. Very subtle stuff, maybe like a photo of him being hung in Ryuuji's lab, and perhaps Youko recalling him and her mother at the party, and maybe Hiromu telling Nick he's stronger now like his father and Jin would've wanted, would've done great justice to Jin's death without causing any time issues or dampening the atmosphere of the end. Jin's been great, and I just wish Toei had made things nicer for his departure.

And... It's an interesting similarity that I felt the same about Magiranger but turned around and appreciated it when they gave Tsubasa greater scope in the show. It really brought back memories when he shouted his famous, strongly emotional "YOU DUMBASSES" in his hangar just like how he used to years ago... Jin, you'll always be the best Go-Buster, and the biggest reason for me to get through the show.

With all that being said, Go-Busters officially becomes my number three Sentai (four if you count Gokaiger, but I exclude anniversary seasons when I rank my Sentai) following Dekaranger, which is in the second place behind Shinkenger, the one show that stole my heart without even trying.... :)

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Kamen Rider Gumo wrote:The mecha were okay, the villains were okay, the heroes were okay.....but that's honestly as good as it got. I predicted Jin's death back when they first revealed Card 07, so it didn't come as a surprise, but unless I've missed one Jin does have the honor of being only the fifth team member killed in a show (I don't count Rio and Mele as they were villains for the majority of the series and never officially joined the team) since the Sentai franchise started back in the 70s...
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DekaBreak wrote:Very subtle stuff, maybe like a photo of him being hung in Ryuuji's lab, and perhaps Youko recalling him and her mother at the party, and maybe Hiromu telling Nick he's stronger now like his father and Jin would've wanted, would've done great justice to Jin's death without causing any time issues or dampening the atmosphere of the end. Jin's been great, and I just wish Toei had made things nicer for his departure.
They kind of did, with J still holding on to that black block at the end, which represents Jin when they were explaining the card transfer in earlier episodes
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Am I the only person who doesn't mind that they didn't show any active 'mourning' scenes?

The way I see it, it's obvious that the epilogue-scenes we DID get weren't like, the next day or week after the defeat of Enter. It was at least a few weeks if not longer. So they didn't actively show the mourning scenes. That doesn't mean they didn't happen, that doesn't make the Go-Busters heartless terrible people. That just means the mourning probably happened off screen, just like, I assume, any mourning they did for their parents happened off screen. Stuff happens off screen all the time. They mourned, and they MOVED ON, the way Jin wanted them to. Adding in a bunch of violently emotional scenes of "he's gone" stuff would have been, I think, a bit too heavy after everything else that happened, in this episode and in this SEASON.

Besides, does Jin seem like the kind of guy who wants his dearest friends, practically his family, to sit around moping about his active and purposeful heroic sacrifice? HELL NO! He wants them to keep living their lives and protecting the Earth.
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Congratulations, Youko, you got into high school!

But you're years behind everyone else in club activities and extracurriculars on top of being a poor student; Go-Busting is probably still classified to protect their civilian lives, so good luck getting into a good college with those transcripts. Looks like someone's going to be OL Youko-tan for the rest of her life~
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butyoumight wrote:Am I the only person who doesn't mind that they didn't show any active 'mourning' scenes?

The way I see it, it's obvious that the epilogue-scenes we DID get weren't like, the next day or week after the defeat of Enter. It was at least a few weeks if not longer. So they didn't actively show the mourning scenes. That doesn't mean they didn't happen, that doesn't make the Go-Busters heartless terrible people. That just means the mourning probably happened off screen, just like, I assume, any mourning they did for their parents happened off screen. Stuff happens off screen all the time. They mourned, and they MOVED ON, the way Jin wanted them to. Adding in a bunch of violently emotional scenes of "he's gone" stuff would have been, I think, a bit too heavy after everything else that happened, in this episode and in this SEASON.

Besides, does Jin seem like the kind of guy who wants his dearest friends, practically his family, to sit around moping about his active and purposeful heroic sacrifice? HELL NO! He wants them to keep living their lives and protecting the Earth.
It's not so much that I wanted a very active mourning scene as it is that I wanted them to talk about Jin a little bit more. A good way to explain it is with J at the end grasping that black block, signifying Jin. I think you needed that with Kuroki for like 15-30 seconds and it would've been fine. You don't need them to be actually mourning as you need someone to say "hey, thanks for sacrificing yourself."
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