KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Rider Finish
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36971
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by takenoko »

< Previous
Wiki
Next >

I don't quite know where to put this thread. Up to this point, I've been putting them with the series that seemed like it'd make the most sense, but this has so many small crossovers that it

Ummmm, your video is 17 minutes long, it's kinda dumb devoting 2+ minutes on a recap

I'm not used to seeing Jin with hair

Nico bought Genm Corps? That part I didn't remember. I'm annoyed they're spelling her name Niko here after it was Nico in the main show

What are you doing here, George?

Gold Drive is such a stupid character, I can't believe he was brought back

Oh shit, a Blade reference 20 years later? Oh man, haven't seen Tachibana since his stint in Fourze. That's awesome. Hahaha, he's got Decade cards, I guess some things don't change. Interesting that they're calling them Zein cards. Is this a soft prologue to Gotcard?

Random thought, reviving dead Riders by just cloning them with Humagears is pretty handy, Speaking of which, did we see who the second Humagear was?

I hope Nico gets to do something besides showing up and being a delivery girl

I can't figure out who the glasses guy is

Everything is is kind of interesting, but I think having one of the coolest Riders (Horobi) getting beaten by one of the latest (Gold Drive) is pretty unsatisfying

Zein's suit is pretty good, I like the colors. Oh, he uses the decade cards by shredding them? Noo

It sounds like he's summon Ex-Aid is hitting Gold Drive with a squeaky hammer

Ooh, it's pretty awesome to see Zeronos. It kind of smacks of grabbing whoever was available, but I'm interested in seeing how they make this story work

Oooh, so that's what the glasses were

I mean, that was sorta fun in that it was like "Here's some guys you like, don't you like seeing them?" more than "Here's characters you like doing interesting things"

You know what, I take back what I said about Zeronos being kind of random. Since Zeronos was a Rider that did use up cards, it does seem fitting that he'd inherit a power to shred Decade cards

Next eps in October
Gokider
Hyakkiyakou wo Buttagiru
Posts: 179
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:59 am

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by Gokider »

takenoko wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:59 pm Everything is is kind of interesting, but I think having one of the coolest Riders (Horobi) getting beaten by one of the latest (Gold Drive) is pretty unsatisfying
Especially since he's Bronze now so shouldn't his power and abilities be lesser than before?
takenoko wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:59 pm Zein's suit is pretty good, I like the colors. Oh, he uses the decade cards by shredding them? Noo
Thankfully not actually Decade cards. Clearly based on them and still Rider Cards, but all have Zein's emblem on the back instead so they're making their own, maybe?
User avatar
Phoenix512
Rising to the Top
Rising to the Top
Posts: 6819
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:29 pm

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by Phoenix512 »

takenoko wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:59 pmWhat are you doing here, George?
Being the ultimate Kamen Rider Fanboy. If he doesn't show up in future Kamen Rider crossovers, the world isn't right. He even sings a song of name dropping all the major Riders, first secondary Riders, and all the Revice Riders.
takenoko wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:59 pmGold Drive is such a stupid character, I can't believe he was brought back
Even the episode makes the fun of the fact that he isn't gold and no one really remembers him.
takenoko wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:59 pmRandom thought, reviving dead Riders by just cloning them with Humagears is pretty handy, Speaking of which, did we see who the second Humagear was?

I can't figure out who the glasses guy is

Oooh, so that's what the glasses were
Too bad the preview does spoil the second Humagear revival but the episode did provide hints to figure it out.
takenoko wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:59 pmOoh, it's pretty awesome to see Zeronos. It kind of smacks of grabbing whoever was available, but I'm interested in seeing how they make this story work

You know what, I take back what I said about Zeronos being kind of random. Since Zeronos was a Rider that did use up cards, it does seem fitting that he'd inherit a power to shred Decade cards
Before the reveal of Zeronos, I was thinking of how Zein just shreds the cards was like Zeronos losing the ticket after the fight. I was glad it was intentional and rewards people for knowing Rider.

I'm just glad to know that Zein is supposed to be a good guy. The episodes before this one I couldn't figure out if Zein was supposed to be good or evil. I thought the Outsiders are the trope "to fight evil, figut with evil."
Image
JustiFanV2
7X
Posts: 86
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:51 am

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by JustiFanV2 »

Phoenix512 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:50 am Before the reveal of Zeronos, I was thinking of how Zein just shreds the cards was like Zeronos losing the ticket after the fight. I was glad it was intentional and rewards people for knowing Rider.
I do like that little nod to how Zeronos' powers worked, intentional or not. Still, I'm having a difficult time trying to work out an in-show explanation for why anybody would intentionally make a Driver do this:


"Check it out, everyone. This is my greatest creation: this belt and these cards will let someone use the power of pretty much any Rider you can imagine! Any ability, any weapon... the bad guys won't stand a chance."

"Wow, that's amazing, congratulations! It seems incred..."

"But wait, there's more! This is the real genius: the belt shreds the cards so each power can only be used exactly once. Awesome, right?"

"..."
Gokider
Hyakkiyakou wo Buttagiru
Posts: 179
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:59 am

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by Gokider »

JustiFanV2 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:52 pm
Phoenix512 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:50 am Before the reveal of Zeronos, I was thinking of how Zein just shreds the cards was like Zeronos losing the ticket after the fight. I was glad it was intentional and rewards people for knowing Rider.
I do like that little nod to how Zeronos' powers worked, intentional or not. Still, I'm having a difficult time trying to work out an in-show explanation for why anybody would intentionally make a Driver do this:


"Check it out, everyone. This is my greatest creation: this belt and these cards will let someone use the power of pretty much any Rider you can imagine! Any ability, any weapon... the bad guys won't stand a chance."

"Wow, that's amazing, congratulations! It seems incred..."

"But wait, there's more! This is the real genius: the belt shreds the cards so each power can only be used exactly once. Awesome, right?"

"..."
Probably not their first choice. Even with the cards having Zein's emblem and likely being made based on the originals, they might work the same way or as well so they're only one shots that have to be broken down to utilize.

Not that Driver mechanics are often delved into too much, but it would be weird if they managed to make use of something like the Rider Cards with something not from that series. (Yes, I know DiEnd was around earlier, but hopefully they wouldn't have him help anyone else with something like that.)
User avatar
msf232
Faiz
Posts: 678
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:05 pm
Gender: Male
Dreamy: 민지여신
Favorite Band: Dreamcatcher
My boom: Nothing definite, changes from time to time
Type: ISTP Crafter
Location: Bangladesh
Contact:

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by msf232 »

Was Brain's actor not available for this part or something? I don't understand why they'd only drop "hints" like the glass and the silhouette otherwise... at least in Yuto Sakurai's case I understand somewhat

I hope they don't stop bringing in whoever they can from prior seasons though, I like that very much
Finished:
Dairanger, Shinkenger, Kyoryuger–キングオージャー
Kuuga–Geats
Nexus, R/B
Ryukendo, Rescue Force
スパイダーマン
CH THE LIVE
Akibaranger, Akiba S痛
Wakusaver S2, Jyuukaizar
CPH GandD
User avatar
Lunagel
Mofu~
Posts: 11312
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:09 am
Favorite series: Magiranger
2nd Favorite Series: Gekiranger
Location: Japan

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by Lunagel »

Brain looks like he hasn't been doing much recently so he should theoretically be pretty open to coming back. Episode 4?
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36971
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by takenoko »

msf232 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:57 am Was Brain's actor not available for this part or something? I don't understand why they'd only drop "hints" like the glass and the silhouette otherwise... at least in Yuto Sakurai's case I understand somewhat
Maybe the timing didn't work out? But he is listed as Brain in ep 4 and not just voice of Kamen Rider Brain
https://www.kamen-rider-official.com/outsiders/ep4/
User avatar
msf232
Faiz
Posts: 678
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:05 pm
Gender: Male
Dreamy: 민지여신
Favorite Band: Dreamcatcher
My boom: Nothing definite, changes from time to time
Type: ISTP Crafter
Location: Bangladesh
Contact:

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by msf232 »

takenoko wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:53 pm
msf232 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:57 am Was Brain's actor not available for this part or something? I don't understand why they'd only drop "hints" like the glass and the silhouette otherwise... at least in Yuto Sakurai's case I understand somewhat
Maybe the timing didn't work out? But he is listed as Brain in ep 4 and not just voice of Kamen Rider Brain
https://www.kamen-rider-official.com/outsiders/ep4/
Spoiler
I mean he does appear in the preview, so he was there for episode 4 at least
Finished:
Dairanger, Shinkenger, Kyoryuger–キングオージャー
Kuuga–Geats
Nexus, R/B
Ryukendo, Rescue Force
スパイダーマン
CH THE LIVE
Akibaranger, Akiba S痛
Wakusaver S2, Jyuukaizar
CPH GandD
Ghost23
ZAIA Tool
ZAIA Tool
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:26 pm

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by Ghost23 »

OK I'm all caught up. Is it me or is the suit actor for Ouja gotten even more 'hefty' looking? I always thought he looked a bit thicc in the original series but looks like he packed on a bit more since the last time in the suit. Just find it weird when the henshin cancels and there stands the actor thinner then the suit actor. Looks like Zeronous put on a bit of weight, he don't look like the scrawny young guy from Den-O. Did Ren's book change also, it glowed a bit but then they cut to Des.
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36971
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by takenoko »

>OK I'm all caught up. Is it me or is the suit actor for Ouja gotten even more 'hefty' looking? I always thought he looked a bit thicc in the original series but looks like he packed on a bit more since the last time in the suit. Just find it weird when the henshin cancels and there stands the actor thinner then the suit actor. Looks like Zeronous put on a bit of weight, he don't look like the scrawny young guy from Den-O. Did Ren's book change also, it glowed a bit but then they cut to Des.

I mean, that's what getting older does XD
ViRGE
Save the life
Posts: 2697
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:35 pm

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by ViRGE »

I ended episode 2 in a confused state. Episode 3 has not helped in this in the slightest.:lol:

So Zein is not an entity, but rather is a set of Kamen Rider powers? That really doesn't jibe with the first couple of Outsider episodes, which very explicitly treat Zein as an individual entity - a "good" super AI that is going to go overboard and wipe out humanity for the good of the world. Unless the suit is going to eventually take off and act on its own, it really doesn't make any sense to have a previous rider wearing it.

And this goes to show I don't know my pre-DenO shows very well. But Tachibana Sakuya is a previous KR character, isn't he?

Meanwhile Gold Drive (Banno) is certainly an interesting choice. If an Outsider is going to get wiped out, you'd be hard pressed to find a better choice. He really is a scumbag with no redeeming values, unlike the other Outsiders who toe the line on being anti-heroes, and thus are the heroes of this story. And to that end, I appreciate the humor in explicitly pointing out that he doesn't fit with the group - that he's an outsider among the Outsiders. I'm sure we'll never get an explanation for why he's now bronze, but I can work with it on a symbolic level.

And does anyone else find Nico's hat weird? I'm guessing they're trying to hide a wig with that.

Finally, seeing the Zein suit makes me appreciate the effort and money Toei has put in to the series, despite being a spin-off. While it's not a super high budget affair, in 4 episodes we've gotten a new suit, a new driver (countdown until Toei starts selling it?), tons and tons of returning characters, and some pretty good fights. For as short and infrequent as the episodes are, it's a surprising amount of effort on their part.
takenoko wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:59 pm I don't quite know where to put this thread. Up to this point, I've been putting them with the series that seemed like it'd make the most sense, but this has so many small crossovers that it
At this point it probably needs to be in the general KR forum. As you correctly note, it crosses to many series to be placed in any single series' location.
Ummmm, your video is 17 minutes long, it's kinda dumb devoting 2+ minutes on a recap
At 3 months between episodes (and 9 months since the series began), I actually appreciated the recap. Yeah, it ate into some of the run time, but with each episode basically being an isolated story, it's helpful to get an idea of where this episode is trying to go.
Nico bought Genm Corps? That part I didn't remember. I'm annoyed they're spelling her name Niko here after it was Nico in the main show
The finale of Ex-Aid had her investing her gaming winnings into Genm stock. However I believe this is the first time the subject has come up since then. It certainly didn't stop Kuroto Dan from using the corp for his own whims in episode 0.
msf232 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:57 am Was Brain's actor not available for this part or something? I don't understand why they'd only drop "hints" like the glass and the silhouette otherwise... at least in Yuto Sakurai's case I understand somewhat
Yeah, that was quite weird. Normally when you don't have an actor available, you downplay it. But there was no obvious reason to involve Brain in this episode, as he didn't actually do anything. Even though he shows up in the next episode, I don't get what they were going for here.
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36971
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by takenoko »

>And this goes to show I don't know my pre-DenO shows very well. But Tachibana Sakuya is a previous KR character, isn't he?

They'll probably go more into it in the next episode, but he's from Blade. You'll probably recognize him from this meme:
Image

>And does anyone else find Nico's hat weird? I'm guessing they're trying to hide a wig with that.

Nico looks weird to me too, just thought it was the actress getting older

>Finally, seeing the Zein suit makes me appreciate the effort and money Toei has put in to the series, despite being a spin-off. While it's not a super high budget affair, in 4 episodes we've gotten a new suit, a new driver (countdown until Toei starts selling it?), tons and tons of returning characters, and some pretty good fights. For as short and infrequent as the episodes are, it's a surprising amount of effort on their part.

If it's card themed, will he tie into Gotchard somehow?
ViRGE
Save the life
Posts: 2697
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:35 pm

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by ViRGE »

takenoko wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:04 am >And this goes to show I don't know my pre-DenO shows very well. But Tachibana Sakuya is a previous KR character, isn't he?

They'll probably go more into it in the next episode, but he's from Blade. You'll probably recognize him from this meme:
I don't recognize the meme, either. But I've never watched Blade, so that explains why I don't recognize the character. Thanks for the background info.
>Finally, seeing the Zein suit makes me appreciate the effort and money Toei has put in to the series, despite being a spin-off. While it's not a super high budget affair, in 4 episodes we've gotten a new suit, a new driver (countdown until Toei starts selling it?), tons and tons of returning characters, and some pretty good fights. For as short and infrequent as the episodes are, it's a surprising amount of effort on their part.

If it's card themed, will he tie into Gotchard somehow?
Maybe? Given that the first episode of Outsiders would have been produced a year ago, it's hard to imagine they were thinking that far ahead. On the other hand, the new driver was only introduced in this latest episode, so they may be winging things a bit.

The fact that the current cards are redecorated Decade cards makes me doubtful. But clearly, anything is possible.
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36971
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: KR Outsiders Ep 3 Gold Drive and a buncha cameos

Post by takenoko »

>I don't recognize the meme, either. But I've never watched Blade, so that explains why I don't recognize the character. Thanks for the background info.

Image
Image
Image
Image

https://takkynoko.tumblr.com/post/65288 ... dercracker
Post Reply

Return to “Kamen Rider (Completed)”