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[takenoko]

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Ratings for Geat's last episode: 4.17 of 5 stars (12 votes)

such a colorful buckle

The bad guy designs are interesting

So basically we're throwing CGI at each other huh?

Such a colorful hq

Father's face is mysteriously covered

How many of these classmates will we see again?

Even his shoes are Gotchard colored. Must be fate

This must be the guy in the chair. Big sidekick energy

Girl, you need glasses. He is not even close to being outside your sightline

I feel a strong Baby Yoda influence

Rip all the people that got run over by Denliner

Girl is pretty but her acting is very wooden

Pretty handy that all these mages, I mean alchemists have a uniform

Is this guy this other guy's dad?

Got picked to wear the belt pretty fast, don't you think? And why doesn't inventor guy just wear it himself? Oh, I guess he read the script and knew he'd die

There's your Rider bike

Oh no, these cartoons are attacking

It's pretty thrilling to see Miyahara Kanon in a main Rider series role

Ooh, are the mosnter of the weeks just going to be new powers that the main villains swap around? That could be intriguing

Why'd it take so long for her to do her reaction? Weird editing choice

Points for the old guy psychicly teaching him everything he needs to know about the driver

Wow, what a best match

good entrance!

Song is catchy so far

Hey the girl is useful in battle! Nice!

I like Gotchard's fighting style so far. Very street fighty with the ground kicks and knee attacks. That pose he does before his Rider kick feels kinda muay thai?

I wasn't sure about the design before, but it's pretty nice in action. The metallic blue is a nice color. We'll see how often they cgi animate that fire in his chest

The armor coming off, forming and reforming as he does the kick seems unnecessarily complicated

Way to seal the Undead in a card

Oh man, I hope the girl gets less wooden as the show goes on. Every line lands with a thud. Is that really the best take you got?

If the finisher just lets the bad guys run away, it makes me wonder how they'll justify it when they start finally beating them for real

Enjoy the color going monochrome before he denhensins

It's nice of that ring to get the bangs out of his eyes

Not bad so far. I like the characters and world setting for the most part. The villains look great and have an interesting power set in comparison to the good guys. The only real downside currently is the girl's acting, which can improve with time

Hopefully this won't be a Revice situation where this is as good as we gets and it's all downhill from this point.

Hmm, looking at the cast page, I notice the girl and the old guy have the same last name. So did her dad just bite it in ep 1?

https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gotchard/item/
The card system is tantalizing. So there's 10 of each type, where insects and vehicles are like the card suits. So Hopper and Kamantis are 1 and 9 for the insect category, whereas steamliner is 9 for the vehicle category

Edit:
I thought of a nitpick. I don't like that the cards go back facing out. What's the point of having cards in the belt if you can't see them?

[Connie_Edogawa]

this is a bit fast paced to get everything in place so we can start tackling the real meat of the story next episode, but since Kamen Rider and Super Sentai aren't the kind of shows to typically get a full 1 hour special for their start, you kinda have to. can't expect the kids to want to watch episode 2 if nothing happens in episode 1, after all. so I'm looking forward to where we go from here, if only to see things settle into place and get the real character dynamics.

I wonder if we're gonna go the whole season with the chemies doing pokemon speak or if we'll get proper dialogue at some point. seems a bit of a waste to have Nobuyuki Hiyama voice Steamliner just to have him shout variations on "steam" over and over for ~50 straight episodes.

a few notes based on what we've seen/has been officially revealed before (will spoiler tag in case I'm wrong and this isn't supposed to be known yet):

1) the antagonist girls:

Spoiler

the three enemy girls' names are Atropos, Clotho, and Lachesis, the names of the 3 Fates from Greek Mythology. if you've seen Disney's Hercules, they're the three crones who share a single eyeball in the movie (dunno if that's part of the actual myth) and spin the threads of everyone's lives, cutting them when they end, weaving them together, etc (that part IS part of the myth)

2) enemy kaijin:

Spoiler

according to that page Take linked to, which names what cards we've seen in the show so far, the enemy kaijin form is called a Malgam, as in Amalgam, which is fitting

3) the cards (dunno how much the cards themselves are spoilers, but some of this is based on sounds made by the driver toy):

Spoiler

while Take linked to the TV Asahi official site, here's the Gotchard official site's database for the cards are they're released in the in-store sets https://www.rider-card.com/cardlist/?search=true

leading into this:

https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gotchard/item/
The card system is tantalizing. So there's 10 of each type, where insects and vehicles are like the card suits. So Hopper and Kamantis are 1 and 9 for the insect category, whereas steamliner is 9 for the vehicle category

Spoiler

yep. there's a total of 10 categories with 10 cards each for Gotchard's standard cards, totaling 100 cards. the 1-9 of each category matches up with a 9-1 respectively of another category, and not always the same ones. Gotchard's base form combines an insect and a vehicle, but the mantis he captured, while an insect, does NOT pair with a vehicle. all form combos add up to 10, so if he gets a 3, you know it matches with a 7, etc. there's also a level X (10) card for each category, and I don't know if Gotchard himself will use them for a form or not, but to use them in the belt toy, since all matching pairs add to 10, you put the level X card and a blank together to make it make any bonus sounds, as it only makes sounds for initial card insertion and matching pairs, otherwise making a generic noise for mismatches.

there are also Legend Rider (all number 5) cards that pair together based on series, so any rider from one show will work with any rider from another show, but only the ones they're specifically paired with, with a few exceptions, those being that the main 4 of Geats, their supporters, Glare, and Gazer all have cards, the Riders pairing with their supporters and Glare and Gazer pairing as DGP staff, and Revi and Vice have separate cards that specifically pair together for Revice.

I thought of a nitpick. I don't like that the cards go back facing out. What's the point of having cards in the belt if you can't see them?

it's because the backs of the cards feature the halves of Gotchard's helmet, but split inversely, so when you combine the cards in the belt, the two halves match up in the middle, behind the eye arrows and mouthpiece shape, to show the helmet for the form. they're split that way so you can put the cards in on either side and still make it work, and also it's one of the ways you identify which pairs match up, like the labels on the tops of the bottles in build having matching sets so you can tell a best match. the other way to tell is, again like Build's bottle labels, there's a symbol to the left of the Chemie's name to indicate what category they are, and another in the bottom right corner of the category of the card they match with, so you just look for the cards with matching category symbols.

[Lunagel]

if you've seen Disney's Hercules, they're the three crones who share a single eyeball in the movie (dunno if that's part of the actual myth) and spin the threads of everyone's lives, cutting them when they end, weaving them together, etc (that part IS part of the myth)

The singular eyeball was an entirely different set of three sisters, the Graeae.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeae

[takenoko]

1) the antagonist girls:

Spoiler

the three enemy girls' names are Atropos, Clotho, and Lachesis, the names of the 3 Fates from Greek Mythology. if you've seen Disney's Hercules, they're the three crones who share a single eyeball in the movie (dunno if that's part of the actual myth) and spin the threads of everyone's lives, cutting them when they end, weaving them together, etc (that part IS part of the myth)

I think the three women who share an eyeball are from Perseus's myth. Looks like they're called the Graeae. They're a set of different three women that aren't the fates or the gorgons lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeae
Edit: Scooped by Luna!

>all form combos add up to 10

How um, very OOO of them

>it's because the backs of the cards feature the halves of Gotchard's helmet, but split inversely, so when you combine the cards in the belt, the two halves match up in the middle,

https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gotchard/ite ... g_back.png
https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gotchard/ite ... g_back.png

Looks like all the backs are the same though

[kangchan]

This is the first time after 18 years since KR Hibiki, the first episode is written by 2 people. Since this show has 2 main writers, I wonder if they will write together each episode?
I like the plot and world building. But I don't like the acting of both main Rider and main female, feel they need to improve more in acting.

[takenoko]

Is it that rare for two writers to do the first episode? It's weird because Uchida really hasn't done that much on his own, I see he's done some anime series that aren't listed on the Japanese wiki though. And he's done some movies and stagework too
https://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Uchida_Hiroki#Work
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%86%85 ... 5%E5%9F%BA

[Connie_Edogawa]

>it's because the backs of the cards feature the halves of Gotchard's helmet, but split inversely, so when you combine the cards in the belt, the two halves match up in the middle,

https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gotchard/ite ... g_back.png
https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gotchard/ite ... g_back.png

Looks like all the backs are the same though

those are the backs for Hopper 1 and Steamliner that combine to make the Steam Hopper helmet.

just from the end of the episode, here's the backs they've shown us. the ones in the blue squares flip over to be Hopper 1 and Steamliner, meaning instances of duplicates are different cards that pair up, so note they've shown the backs of 2 more combos, here highlighted in red and purple (spoiler tagged because big image):

Spoiler

the one in the green box is the back of the mantis card he got today (you can see it when he's talking to the three at the end of the fight before his friend runs up with the phone, since the mantis is on the leftmost side of them in his hand).

and here's a screenshot from the official Bandai commercial for the driver belt (the second before this shot the cards are flipped over to show the chemies that make up the combos, so I'll avoid showing that part and you're warned if you go to look up the commercial)

Spoiler

the backs of ALL legend Rider cards I've seen so far ARE the same, though, despite having specific pairings. they all look a bit like Steam Hopper, but shaved down to be more specifically Kamen Rider Ichigou's style, rather than the stylistic similarity Steam Hopper has.

[Mxylv]

This was pretty good. Almost everything in the trailers I saw, from the synopsis to the show's gimmick being gimmicks, really had me concerned, but the execution was largely well done. They seem to be going for basic archetypes as far as the titular Rider's concerned; I forget if there's a name for the highschooler-involved-in-magic-otherworld premise (almost like portal fantasy, but without portals?).

I like the idea of the villains getting forms based on the Chemy; it could easily turn into a Chemy-or-three-of-the-week scenario (I don't feel like the story could go any number of ways the way I did with Geats' opening, and the implied collect-them-all basis could be tiring if not done well), but they could still go some interesting routes with it.

On a side note, curious about that Ouroboros that showed up for a couple seconds at the Chemy station. Maybe that's going somewhere later?

[Gokider]

The fight did seem a bit like the one at the beginning of Zero-One.

Yes, some of it is bound to happen with the Hopper themes, but the commenting on their jumping ability right off the bat seems a bit more similar than just pointing out what happened in similar scenarios and the enemy attacks are almost the same too.

[Connie_Edogawa]

The fight did seem a bit like the one at the beginning of Zero-One.

Yes, some of it is bound to happen with the Hopper themes, but the commenting on their jumping ability right off the bat seems a bit more similar than just pointing out what happened in similar scenarios and the enemy attacks are almost the same too.

I mean, at that point, it's also a reference to OOO, whose first kaijin fight was with a Mantis themed enemy and would've focused on what each medal did, so hopper jumping.

[Kurow]

4/5 (Almost perfect but some bad cgi)

Ok! We have here ryuki/blade card gimmick with W/build. I like it!

The show starts strong with the Evil Yugioh girl band... the Pharaoh now have to be the final boss...

A cool and cute female support character that was actually useful since ep 1... ok now give this girl rider powers soon and don't wait until the final 5 eps to give her an upgraded form.

The cgi still really bad and that scene when he jumped from the train to avoid the bridge looked like something made in 1970.

I liked the henshin sequence. It looks like the "henshin" from saint seiya. The suit is well made and really shines a lot!. A lot better than the starter suits from geats who looked cheap.

I really need to go back to the Geats ep 1 and see what was my initial impression of that show. This one had a lot of potential but I hope it at least as soon as Zero One because so far the Reiwa timeline doesn't have a really good kamen riders series.

[Gokider]

The fight did seem a bit like the one at the beginning of Zero-One.

Yes, some of it is bound to happen with the Hopper themes, but the commenting on their jumping ability right off the bat seems a bit more similar than just pointing out what happened in similar scenarios and the enemy attacks are almost the same too.

I mean, at that point, it's also a reference to OOO, whose first kaijin fight was with a Mantis themed enemy and would've focused on what each medal did, so hopper jumping.

True enough, but it matches up more with the protagonist pointing out the jumping ability rather than just showcasing it and the later two Mantis themed enemies have more similar abilities (at least visually) though that could just be because of when each series came out.

Of course, like OOO, it's more of an actual Mantis and not an extinct relation and the protagonist does have that Card/Medal at the end of the episode.

[kangchan]

Is it that rare for two writers to do the first episode? It's weird because Uchida really hasn't done that much on his own, I see he's done some anime series that aren't listed on the Japanese wiki though. And he's done some movies and stagework too
https://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Uchida_Hiroki#Work
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%86%85 ... 5%E5%9F%BA

I checked that only KR Hibiki has 2 writers in the first episode. Kida Tsuyoshi and Ooishi Shinji wrote together until episode 12.
KR Wizard second and third episode has two writers: Komura Junko and Kida Tsuyoshi.

Gotchard this time they said this series has 2 main writers and the first time Hasegawa Keiichi and Uchida Hiroki become main writer for KR.

[Lunagel]

I'm frankly not impressed. The CGI is lackluster, Houtarou is fuckin irritating, the Chemys super annoying and the girl is so wooden it's painful. A couple scenes I could practically read her stage directions. She better get good really quickly or this is going to be one long year.

The three Egyptian Fates were pretty damn cool though, and it looks like we'll be getting a lot of them, so woot for that.

[takenoko]

It's Greek fates, you're doing that on purpose!

Anyway, I got around to filling out the cast on the wiki and I've got trivia!
https://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Kamen_Rid ... ard#Trivia