King-Ohger 34 discussion post

[takenoko]

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Ratings for last episode: 5 out of 5 (10 votes)

No math needed this time, 10 votes, all 5 stars. Pretty rare, but just shows how much love the fans have for Kyouryuu

The rulers sure like strutting

How longer were the rulers gone??

Wait, so the super robo spaceship was traveling near the speed of light?? So the theory of realtivity applies to the ship going to Earth to begin with. Were they on Earth with the Kyouryuugers for three months? But it says the 7 days for them to travel was 6 months??

LOL at everyone ignoring Rita and Spiderman

Has Gira ever been alone with Himeno before??

Is this the first time we've seen Yanma and King Bee alone too?

Wait, Suzume launched the spaceship but she wasn't on it??

Man, King Bee could be a Vader

That monster of the week looks like a rider

Wait, so it's okay to beat up the Bugnaraku but not the people?

What? He stole KyouryuuRed's sword?

Nice acting from Kogane! Give her more screen time!

They combined with the dino!

In some ways, this dance off is more fun than the epilepsy inducing laser show earlier

Is this still an insect show?!

Wait, the castle is the spaceship. Did the writer forget that and just assumed this was another castle that Suzume was in this whole time??

Is Suzume being manipulated? She doesn't feel like the same character. Or is this another act?

Oh hey it's Darth Vader

Literally wearing Racles's pants. Why does he have a breathing noise and a modulated voice when his nose and mouth are uncovered by the mask??

Racles looks good with his new haircut. Wait, his name is Shugo Mask and you only have him wear the mask for like two minutes?

Racles is back, and he comes with a blue uniform now! Buy the toy! Wait, Racles really died??

[HowlingSnail]

In her brother's absence, shouldn't Suzume be the legitimate ruler of Toufu anyway? Although as it's based on feudal Japan maybe there's a "no girls" rule. Actually, considering the show is called King-Ohger, only 2 of the nations actually have legitimate monarchies.

I haven't been following show discourse, so maybe this has come up, but Dagdedo reminds me of that episode of Futurama with the Star Trek cast, and it turns out the god-like being was defeated by his mother showing up. I half expect this show to do that, given how childlike they're playing him.

[Yaiba]

After the spectacular Kyouryuuger crossover, this episode pacing was all over the place. Most probably because they need to shoehorn King KyoryuJin in. It makes zero sense other than Bandai wanted it. Minityra can't be mini without the Carnival ZyuDenChi, and there's no reason for it to leave Prince behind after being entrusted by Daigo less than a day before.

The reveal was underwhelming as well. It's to no one surprises the mask was Racles, so I'm glad they didn't drag that out. Though I applaud them going full Darth Vader with the breathing sounds and muffled voice. It might be the cgi, but did he missed the last step coming down the stairs

I'm more interested to see how the kings are going to lay siege to their own kingdom to take them back.

The dummy tree-like Space Bug didn't get assign a kingdom. Racles didn’t mention taking over Bugnaraku either.

No citizens went after Rita and Jeremie because they had no citizens.

When you don't know how to explain a necessary time skip, just say some vaguely scientific sounding stuff.

Are the stock transformation sequences new or I just haven't seen them for a long time.

The Fly Bugnaraku. Recolored from the one on episode 15. Same voice actor too.


???

[takenoko]

It's ironic since Dagdedo is the original fly guy, Bae, from Geki

Edit: If it took 6 months for the rulers to arrive back at Chikyuu, does that mean we can calculate the distance Chikyuu is from Earth since we know how much time dilation occurred?

[takenoko]

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/time-dilation

So if they experienced 7 days which was 180 days for an outside observer, the speed they were traveling at was:
299565.7 km/s

299792 km/s is the speed of light. So we know that castle spaceship can travel at almost light speed.

7 days at their speed would equal 181177335360 km (181 billion km) or .019 light years

[Lunagel]

How did the castle get to them almost instantaneously then?

[takenoko]

How did the castle get to them almost instantaneously then?

The writer didn't think about it when he wrote that, so only the trip home counts

[HowlingSnail]

Yeah, I was thinking that too, but frankly with King-Ohger I've basically switched my brain off now, I'm just coasting along waiting for Boonboomger.

[Lunagel]

Yeah, I was thinking that too, but frankly with King-Ohger I've basically switched my brain off now, I'm just coasting along waiting for Boonboomger.

Oh god I forgot that was the next one *begins to drink heavily*

[Connie_Edogawa]

How did the castle get to them almost instantaneously then?

The writer didn't think about it when he wrote that, so only the trip home counts

if I had to hazard a guess and give the benefit of the doubt that the writers didn't just handwave it away (also provided I'm not forgetting them sending a signal back to Chikyuu telling them to send the ship or something):

when Dagdedo sent them away, they got sent also at near light speed, so they spent 3 months in wormhole travel from Chikyuu to Earth, but just didn't consciously register it because the wormhole made time relative to them slow down to the point they didn't notice, and while WE saw Suzume send the castle ship after they realized on Earth that it WAS a spaceship, she probably sent it out long before they realized, probably only a little bit after they left, in Chikyuu time, so it was only slightly behind them on the way there while all of the time still passed on Chikyuu as normal.

so, something like:
1) Dagdedo sends them to Earth (this takes almost 3 months of Chikyuu time)
2) sometime shortly after they leave, Suzume sends out the ship (this takes mostly the same 3 months of Chikyuu time because the team isn't actually even ON Earth yet when she sends it)
3) they get to Earth and spend like a day or two doing stuff with the Kyouryuugers. during this time, they realize the castle IS a ship, but by this point it's already on its way
4) the ship arrives and they fight the Deboss.
5) with all that wrapped up, they leave back to Chikyuu in the ship, and this takes the other 3 months of Chikyuu time. in all, they've consciously experienced a week, but 6 months have passed.

Wait, the castle is the spaceship. Did the writer forget that and just assumed this was another castle that Suzume was in this whole time??

the Ship/Mech part of the castle seems to be the majority of the structure, yes, but I think there's at least one or two floors of castle that exist as actual building besides that.

[HowlingSnail]

I assumed the transport was instantaneous. Dagedo seems to have godlike abilities (He happily teleports Gira to various planets in his debut), and basically seems to only be refusing to instantly kill everyone on the planet because it would bore him. So I imagine instantenous transportation isn't beyond his power.

[Lunagel]

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5) with all that wrapped up, they leave back to Chikyuu in the ship, and this takes the other 3 months of Chikyuu time. in all, they've consciously experienced a week, but 6 months have passed.

Except the 6 months to one week matches up completely with the time distortion the theory of relativity says they'd experience, like takenoko posted.

Dagdedo teleporting them I can believe, but the castle is a big ol' plothole they brought on themselves by over explaining the time jump

[Connie_Edogawa]

then I give up and the writers are hacks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[takenoko]

Yeah, the problem is that if the return trip is true, the King-Ohgers should have waited 6 months to get their ship. So returning they should be back a year later, not 6 months and like 1-2 days

[Zerato]

Would this fall under Writers can't do math or Writers have no sense of distance?